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July 7th
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kcmartel [4:11 PM] @gerri To stand and act in solidarity with the Movement for Black Lives, we will be canceling the EVFA chat tonight.
Several of us will be joining BLM DC to march against police murder tonight at 7. Please consider joining us, we will be gathering near the bike share.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1415425061807132/
Several of us will be joining BLM DC to march against police murder tonight at 7. Please consider joining us, we will be gathering near the bike share.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1415425061807132/
kcmartel [4:36 PM] @gerri: we’ll likely still be with BLM at 9. Here’s where thoughts are now on the platform as it relates to the DNC action: "It hits the basic points on public finance, an amendment to overturn CU & Buckley, and voting rights protections. Could be strengthened to indicate priority and be explicit about banning corporate political spending etc. Still, this is a win for our movement. We will be clarifying our demand to the Party, which goes beyond the platform, in the next few days.”
would love your input so feel free to share hear, we can have discussions in this channel out side of the regularly scheduled chat time.
would love your input so feel free to share hear, we can have discussions in this channel out side of the regularly scheduled chat time.
We need a weekly national chat and we have to assign a person in charge for all 50 states. Do we have people in all states?
Who is in charge of this Spring? Is anyone organizing this?
harveywilliams [7:26 PM] @gerri: the normal chat moderator will not be here today, I suggest whoever shows up today can have a discussion and organize on their own. In broader terms I recommend that you organize people in your area to help with EVFA outreach and take advantage of the various EVFA tools such as the toolkit. That's what I've done with some others in Los Angeles. https://docs.google.com/document/d/103j95mJhWOwY1ps6X6wMOfXP_vGnxl-gl9QbfNzNt6M/edit
Mis spoke
Like literally going down town with a sign
It seems that my local is not very organized. I will have to try what you said, harvey. What are you two doing?
I am new to this. Do either of you know what is happening at he national level? This is not good that it is not weekly and consecutive.
harveywilliams [7:33 PM] @gerri: This is specifically a weekly chat about the Equal Voice for All Declaration. There is also a DNC action in Philadelphia planned which you can read about at democracyspring.org
Regarding the EVFA I recommend contacting your local state representatives and US House representatives to ask them if they will sign the EVFA, The links you need are in the toolkit I linked to above. You can find state legislators by entering your address here:http://openstates.org/find_your_legislator/ and US House reps here:http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
harveywilliams [7:34 PM] For example I have emailed and called my US Rep and now I have a meeting later this month with my US representative to sign the EVFA.
I live in DC so we don't have senators or a voting rep.
Is there an organizing committee or just a motley, straggly group?
Has your rep. agreed to sign?
Who is that?
harveywilliams [7:37 PM] You can see who has signed here: http://www.equalvoice4all.us/signed I will be asking my representative to sign during the meeting.
equalvoice4all.us
Candidates and elected officials from across the country and at every level of government are stepping up and committing to fight for fundamental reform to fix our democracy. (560KB)
harveywilliams [7:48 PM] To recap: we can all organize locally if we want to support the Equal Voice for All declaration using the Toolkit linked above. We can contact our representatives and candidates and ask them to sign. I recommend calling your representative, asking for the scheduler, and scheduling an in-person meeting to discuss it. Reach out to others in DC to help. DC does not have a voting rep but there are Councilmembers and delegates and their support would help. Click the links that I posted above to get their contact info.
You can find state legislators by entering your address here:http://openstates.org/find_your_legislator/
US House reps here: http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
For example here is the contact information for Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton (at the bottom of the page) https://norton.house.gov/contact/email
Capitol Hill Office
2136 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515
phone: (202) 225-8050
fax: 202) 225-3002
hours: M-F 9-5:30pm
Main District Office
90 K Street, NE
Suite 100
Washington, DC 20001
phone: (202) 408-9041
fax: (202) 408-9048
hours: M-F 9-5:30pm
S.E. District Office
2041 Martin Luther King Jr. Ave., S.E.
Suite 238
Washington, DC 20020
phone: (202) 678-8900
fax: (202) 678-8844
hours: M-F 9-5:30pm(edited)
You can find state legislators by entering your address here:http://openstates.org/find_your_legislator/
US House reps here: http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
For example here is the contact information for Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton (at the bottom of the page) https://norton.house.gov/contact/email
Capitol Hill Office
2136 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515
phone: (202) 225-8050
fax: 202) 225-3002
hours: M-F 9-5:30pm
Main District Office
90 K Street, NE
Suite 100
Washington, DC 20001
phone: (202) 408-9041
fax: (202) 408-9048
hours: M-F 9-5:30pm
S.E. District Office
2041 Martin Luther King Jr. Ave., S.E.
Suite 238
Washington, DC 20020
phone: (202) 678-8900
fax: (202) 678-8844
hours: M-F 9-5:30pm(edited)
It appears that we are adrift. I want to help but there is nobody here. Not good.
harveywilliams [8:03 PM] @gerri: This is a weekly discussion about the Equal Voice for All Declaration and the strategy is to have everyone get their local representatives to sign. All support is significant.
Unrelated to the EVFA (and unrelated to this thread) is the upcoming national action at the DNC in Philadelphia if you're interested in that:https://www.facebook.com/events/1761467997459515/
I also recommend organizing locally to help. That's what I've done by starting a Los Angeles Democracy Spring group. http://www.democracyspringla.org/
Democracy Spring LA
Unrelated to the EVFA (and unrelated to this thread) is the upcoming national action at the DNC in Philadelphia if you're interested in that:https://www.facebook.com/events/1761467997459515/
I also recommend organizing locally to help. That's what I've done by starting a Los Angeles Democracy Spring group. http://www.democracyspringla.org/
Democracy Spring LA Follow Us on Facebook
The question is what organization is there at the nat'l level??
Apparently, none?!
Without organization we will only have words and excuses about decentralization.
There appears to be no follow up to the wonderful effort in April in DC Why is that?
What a shame.
harveywilliams [8:09 PM] It's past 6pm PST so that's it for me. I'll be getting more representatives to sign the EVFA and hopefully I'll see everyone who can make it at the DNC in Philadelphia for the action later this month.
What action?/ A burst of CV and then retreat back to your hiding places?
A few times a year DS will pop out do CV and then NO FOLLOW UP.
justin [9:04 PM] Hi @gerri. I live in DC as well, and you and I have met at a couple of marches. I'm a part of the national support committee. I've seen your emails this week and haven't had a chance to reply, but I appreciate the excitement and energy you're bringing into this channel. Thanks for being willing to raise concerns.
You ask what followup there's been to our April action. As @harveywilliams was saying (thanks Harvey!) local organizers like himself are coordinating the smaller-scale action followup to our April action. Local followup actions, for the moment, are focused on the Equal Voice for All Declaration.
The EVFA appears, on its surface, to be a simple signature-gathering petition. In truth, it's one part of a longer term grand strategy: waves of civil disobedience escalation locally & nationally tied to the EVFA, locally-focused GOTV to make sure anti-corruption candidates win at the ballot box, and making sure that candidates go into government with a sense of anti-corruption winds at their back.
You're also asking what's happening by way of coordination at the national level. The action Harvey mentioned at the DNC DS is being coordinated from the national level. At the DNC, in addition to the civil disobedience trainings we'll be doing surrounding the action we're planning, there will be trainings to give people a sense of our long term strategy. The key takeaway will be **teaching people how they can go back home to their local level to work to advance the national strategy** via the strategic maneuvers outlined above (local GOTV for candidates on the side of the people against corruption.).
You ask what followup there's been to our April action. As @harveywilliams was saying (thanks Harvey!) local organizers like himself are coordinating the smaller-scale action followup to our April action. Local followup actions, for the moment, are focused on the Equal Voice for All Declaration.
The EVFA appears, on its surface, to be a simple signature-gathering petition. In truth, it's one part of a longer term grand strategy: waves of civil disobedience escalation locally & nationally tied to the EVFA, locally-focused GOTV to make sure anti-corruption candidates win at the ballot box, and making sure that candidates go into government with a sense of anti-corruption winds at their back.
You're also asking what's happening by way of coordination at the national level. The action Harvey mentioned at the DNC DS is being coordinated from the national level. At the DNC, in addition to the civil disobedience trainings we'll be doing surrounding the action we're planning, there will be trainings to give people a sense of our long term strategy. The key takeaway will be **teaching people how they can go back home to their local level to work to advance the national strategy** via the strategic maneuvers outlined above (local GOTV for candidates on the side of the people against corruption.).
justin [9:06 PM] If you can't make it to the trainings in Philly, there will be lots of settings to learn more in depth about our strategic vision and what local implementation looks like--we're having a volunteer party at the movement house this Saturday that you're welcome to attend. In late August, we intend to lead a national training that will train up dozens of new organizers who will be capable of using our national strategy as a map to win victories against corruption at the local level.
Does this meaningfully address your concerns? What other thoughts do you have?
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July 8th
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gerri [1:39 PM] Thank you very much, Justin. The point is there appears to be NO FOLLOW UP AND NO ORGANIZATION AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. ( I don't need Harvey to tell me who my non voting rep is, pls.) I am willing to organize at the nat'l level as we don't need bursts of CD every few months and then NO FOLLOW UP?? SURELY PEOPLE CAN SEE THE USELESSNESS OF GRAND ACTIONS AND THEN FOLLOWED BY no action?! We need orgznization in every state. We must find someone in each state who will delegate and connect and getall reps/senators on bd. So far we only have 15 reps out of 535??? PITIFUL. Stop spinning your wheels and get a brain. I 'm ready to work.
So, Sarah, what has the national leadership done since April?? What organization is there for each state? What have they assigned you to do since you volunteered??
What is your part, sarah? What have you done?
justin [2:43 PM] I invited you to a phone call where I, as a representative from the national level, can speak to your concerns and work a little harder to make clear precisely what followup *is*presently happening,@gerri. Respectfully, this channel is focused specifically on EVFA support, not discussing broader strategic questions. If you've got more big picture concerns after our call, #localrevolution#chitchat or #general would all be more appropriate places.
To make it briefly clear for any incoming readers in @here, we *have*strong organizers from coast to coast who *are* engaged in immediate followup action by way of the EVFA (one step in our strategic plan that will lead to a next step of escalated action, new member absorption, and subsequent local & national followup actions). There are locally-led state-based sit-ins planned for later this summer. The national team's focus is currently on the DNC, after which point we'll be pivoting to the steps I laid out above.
Justin, I don't know anything about a phone call but on the first EVFA that I was on I left my phone # and no one called me.
I have asked many times who is following up after April and NO ONE has replied. so it looks like there is no follow up. Who are these strong leaders/ I haven't heard from any of them!
You did a tremendous thing in april but what did you do after that??? NO one has anything to say about that. What are the specifics. I ma offering to help and there was NO one on the EVFA last week or last night. IMIA!
MIA
wHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT THERE ISN'T FOLLOW UP THEY DROP OUT.
Direct message me. I live in DC too. I'd be happy to sit down over some coffee and discuss. This just isn't the proper forum.
you've asked many times about follow up and you've been answered many times by myself and others in this channel. it seems clear the answers you're receiving aren't satisfying you, which is why i'm inviting you to discuss these issues one-on-one so that i can truly understand where our disconnect is occurring, and your concerns can be resolved.
but once again, as i've said & @brendan reiterated, this is not the place to continue this conversation. we can do it over the phone, in DM, or another channel. but not here. thanks for understanding.
gerri [7:10 PM] This is my email: ____________. I am not young so I don't know all the technology and just have dial up internet.
My phone: ___________.
Justin, I just saw your email suggesting a call now. I want to help.
Bsebaloaf, I just want to help organize this at the nat'l level. we need precinct-like captains for each state.
You all have done tremendous work but we must keep the momentum.
I don't see that my messages speak to the contrary. any examples, bsebaloaf?
gerri [10:52 PM] Justin, Nobody has told me anything about follow up so I don't know what you are talking about?!
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July 9th
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robshattuck [8:39 AM] @justin: A month ago I asked whether Democracy Spring would approve/promote tweeting banks. Can you give an answer on that?http://2016candidatesdeclarations.blogspot.com/2016/07/what-to-do-if-youre-not-going-to-philly.html
tania_maduro [3:52 PM] Multiple people have tried to talk to you @gerri and inform you of what they are doing at the local level, and what you could do. We do have a lot going on, again as multiple have said, at the National Level we are currently planning mass nonviolent disobedience at the DNC in Philly. For people to contact you, you can also contact us. I, myself have emailed you, you have my own phone number if you search back through all of the emails between yourself and me. Again, it _________, but I'll be walking into my part time job in just a few minutes, but you can call me in the morning if you would like. You also have an email inviting you to our movement house for a bbq tonight, which we'll discuss the national level planned DNC action. But you never accepted. This channel is for the Equal Voice for All, if you would like to chat about other things, look under the section channels, and look for announcements. This space is for all of us local and national to talk and communicate with positivity and kindness, so we ask that you please follow that. Please stick to being positive and kind while writing in here. If you can't, then please refrain from chatting in here and call me. Or have patience please, everyone is busy, and @justin or @brendan, I'm sure will contact you.(edited)
Thank you.
gerri [5:39 PM] Tania, let's keep it real here. My complaints started with and on the EVFA Thursday night chat line where there were no leaders in the last weeks as in nobody was in charge. so there were not "multiple" people trying to talk to me on my questions there about follow up. Let's not exaggerate, tania.There were 2 people. Also, I don't appreciate your saying to me that we should be kind. Yes. We should all be kind, for sure. Where was I not kind, please tell me??
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